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Theo and Ben argue that Gemini 3.8 Flash is highly inefficient for real-world programming tasks despite its strong performance on benchmarks. Theo points out that the model took over 20 minutes and 100 tool calls to execute a simple four-line code change.
Ben claims Gemini 3.8 Flash quickly consumed his entire Cursor monthly usage allocation in roughly one hour. Across four development threads, the model processed 1.5 billion tokens and racked up hundreds of dollars in API usage.
Theo claims he pressured the Gemini and DeepMind teams into adjusting their terms of service regarding anti-gravity support. He initiated this because users risked lifetime Google account bans if their integrations flagged the system.
Ben suspects that Gemini 3.8 Flash's top ranking on the DeepSWE benchmark is the result of extreme overfitting. He points out that Data Curve, the creator of DeepSWE, makes its money selling training data directly to major labs.
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